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I was Where?

APRS, or Automatic Position Reporting System gives an amature a way of making available to other amatures, and anyone interested, a way of figuring out about where you are at any given time.

As a brief overview, if you take a Global Positioning System (GPS) receiver that outputs a standard called NEMA, and pump that into a small computer with one or another form of a Terminal Network Controler (TNC) connected to a radio that at the very least will transmit on the frequency 144.39 as a packet network transmition. There are both packet repeaters, and Internet gateways for this traffic that amoung other systems transfers the location information to FindU.com.

If you install such a setup in your car, you can track approximately where your car is, or has been. Sometimes this leads to some odd results. As an example today I drove into work. One of the packets that reported my various locations through that trip has me located in the middle of Medicine Lake. This may not be too unusual considering it is March, and people have been known to do this thing called Ice Fishing on the lake. However the reality is that GPS location information is not always correct.

I have seen reported maximum speeds on my GPS receiver in excess of 900 mph. Which is a bit slow for a Concord, but the Chevy S-10 we were in really wasn't capable of that. Well, possibly as it's terminal velocity in a free fall, but I don't think the pickup left the pavement on that trip. I have also seen tracks where a stray reading indicated a location several blocks off of the remainder of the track. Of course the next reading was back along the track I remember driving, but the system is really not perfect.

So if someone asks 'What were you doing at Cub?' when you were at Rainbow, explain that you like to walk through the store and stand in the long checkout line to pick up a pack of gum, and annoy the other patrons. And don't trust that APRS will give you 100% accurate information on where your spouse drove the car last night.

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-Rusty - kc0vcu

APRS

I am relatively new to APRS in my auto and have some questions.... who in the club is knowledgeable about APRS?

My friends in Denver ask how they can send me a message that will appear on my D700 in the car. I haven't the foggiest idea, myself.

Anyway, I think it is kind of fun to play around with....
http://www.findu.com/cgi-bin/find.cgi?call=w0mke&terra=1

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Mike

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APRS Messaging

My understanding is that in order to send a message to another APRS user, you need to simply enter the call sign that that user has configured their radio to use, presumably with whatever tag they are using to specify that device, and enter the text of the message.

That is basically what I see in the APRS Messaging portion of the page at http://eng.usna.navy.mil/~bruninga/dcc1998.html

So if your friend with a d700 out in CO wanted to send you a message, he would specify w0mke and enter the message text. I personally don't know what the process is for entering the call sign or the text, but my suspicion is it would probably use something like the text messaging process on a cell phone, using your dtmf buttons on a mic. (22 for b, 333 for f, etc.)

If you are using a modifier for your ID, say w0mke-2 to match a call sign on a licence plate, or something, I suspect that the entire ID needs to match.

Since messages would basically be being passed via digipeaters, I suspect that you would each need to be 'on' when the message was in the system, again I don't know enough about that myself. However you could each be on different bands in whatever QSO you each may be participating in, and still send each other messages via aprs.

Perhaps I should be looking into picking up a d700...

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-Rusty - kc0vcu

APRS

I do a lot with APRS and own 3 TM-D700A's. I love 'em.

First, are your friends in Denver licensed amateurs?

-- 73, KC0TFB
TCFMC Site Administrator

APRS members

They are both hams..... and one has a D700, and also uses UI View at home. So now, what do you suggest?

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Mike

There are only two kinds of people in the world, IRISH and those who wish they were.

APRS members

Well, here's the rub - I've never tried to send a message to a user in a faraway city with APRS. It's not really designed for that, but there might be a way to explicitly route the message to get to you.

If you take a look at Bob Bruninga's website ( http://eng.usna.navy.mil/~bruninga/aprs.html ) it explains message routing and sending email. It might be the opposite of what you want, I suppose, but it might also contain something useful.

It might be possible if your friends find out which relays/wides/igates are between there and here, and set up their uipath to use those explicitly (instead of WIDEn-n, etc), but I could be wrong.

I'd love to know if it works. Good luck!

-- 73,
TCFMC Site Administrator